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READ IT NOW!! @END_FILE_ID.DIZ THIS TEXT COULD PROVE HEAVY (BUT INTERESTING) READING. This text has been dictated to me, Harv, by the PriSoner on the date mentioned. Been on da phone ages, me ear hurts :) My apologies for this text being a bit on the serious side, i have included all the detail i can remember but obviously it was a very stressful time for me but i have tried to keep it as informative as possible. All you sysops out there should find this text interesting and be able to gain some help from it in case the same happens to you. I also apologies for this text being a few days late but obviously its been a stressful time and i've had a lot of things to sort out and arrange. ABOUT THE BUST 2.30ish PM 13th July Thursday. On the phone to Harv when the doorbell rang i asked him to hold on so i could answer it when i answered the door i saw a plain looking couple with papers in there hands. Reaction was Jehovah's Witnesses, oh shit... A search warrant was shoved in my face. I was told it was for stolen computer equipment. Before I knew it the house seemed to be full of plain clothed police officers i was ushered into my computer room, one of them noticed the phone was the hook and asked me who i was speaking to, i replied no one just a friend and hung up. At that point I was cautioned about my rights and asked what the program on the screen was. PriSoner: I replied Directory Opus. Police: He asked me what it does. PriSoner: I told him. Police: He asked me weather the program could talk to other computers. PriSoner: I said no. Police: He then said can I talk to other computers with my computer. PriSoner: I said yes. Police: He then asked if other computers could talk to my computer. PriSoner: I said yes. Police: He then asked if I ran a bbs. PriSoner: Again I said yes. Police: He asked if the bbs was run by me. PriSoner: I said no, it was run by the users and i would like to speak to a solicitor before i answer any more questions. Police: To that he arrested me for trademark and copyright offenses, he then PriSoner: called in soco, to take photographs, throughout i was unable to go near the computer. Two hours later, once most of the computer equipment had been haled off into the van, I was escorted to the police station, charged, had a duty solicitor called and stuck into a cell for another three hours. Then the duty solicitor arrived, he asked me for my personal details, so the fat lazy bastard could claim lots of dosh for sitting there and saying nothing. (My advice to you would be to make sure you know a solicitor cos the duty solicitors are CRAP!). Anyway, i told my solicitor that they were only interested in the software/ bbs and had lied about the reason for obtaining a search warrant. His attitude was they could do what they want and get away with it, very unhelpful. THE INTERVIEW After the formalities were over, tapes being set and names spoken over the tape etc. I was arrested again this time under the offense of handling stolen property. They asked me various questions about where i had obtained the goods in my house etc. to which i kept replying that i bought them that i was under the impression that they were obsolete second hand goods I didn't know the people i bought them off. This may not have sounded like a very good excuse but they have no choice but to accept it as they have no proof to the contrary. They then, after only 5 minutes of questioning about stolen hardware ?! moved onto the bbs and software, my basic line through this questioning was the bbs was run by the users, for the users, i had in the past spotted copyright software on it but had deleted it and either deleted or warned the user, but at the end of the day i could not watch the bbs 24 hours a day and didn't have time to check every piece of software. After about 90 minutes of the same thing, lots of repetition and 1 break, they excepted my story and moved onto a couple of quickies about weather i had ever used 0800 numbers, mobile phones and had my computer connected to the satellite system. etc. All of which i replied no to. Nothing more was said about each subject. During the course of the interview, he said that on 'INFORMATION RECEIVED' he'd been told that my bbs was being used as a distribution point fir trademarked and copyrighted software. At which point my face lit up a bit. I waited for a couple seconds for my CRAP duty solicitor to step in, but he didn't :( so I said that the warrant was for stolen computer equipment, at which point he seemed to get fairly techy and defensive, he tried to explain/make out that they had accidentally come across the bbs, he had previous experience with this sort of thing, (Even though Dopus was on the screen and has nothing to do with comms) and he kept trying to emphasize the point that they had accidentally found the bbs, even though on tape, he had said he was ACTING ON INFORMATION RECEIVED. This banta went on for about five minutes with him on the defensive, at which point i said, 'Yeah whatever you say', at which point the interview abruptly ended. I was then bailed to appear at the police station in two months on the charge of Handling Stolen Property (they never mentioned dropping charges of trademark and copyright offenses, but they must have as it is not on the bail sheet). Thats about the basic story of what happened on the day. CONCLUSION I have obviously been informed upon due to what he said in the interview of running a bbs, i have a very good idea as to who grassed me up. I cant be 100% certain, but i'm 99.9% certain, read on to find out who and my reasons for believing that's he's the culprit and you can make up your own mind. Also make sure you know of a solicitor or two just in case this should happen to you, as my duty solicitor said absolutely nothing throughout the entire interview, apart from at the end in private when i again pushed the possible illegality of the warrant and emphasized the fact that the police officer had said on tape that he was acting on information, at which point he said 'err, um, err', now you come to mention it, hehe, you may have a point, ill have to check it up, something which he shouldn't have to do! Also, any rings at the door, any knocks, make sure the computer screen is turned off (The computer May stay on) as with no information on the screen it will make them a lot harder to ACCIDENTALLY find a bbs. Also another thing to think about is The Ploice which concerned themselves with this bust were South Yorkshire Police, they come to West Yorkshire for stolen equipment. I Think not :\.. SUSPICIONS At the moment, everything points to Jr. Sysop of Dallas BBS and Leader of data division, as being the one who informed, the reasons behind this are: 1. He owes me, butch, captain kirk, jacko and god knows who else a cash/guts and has done for a while. This would give him a reason for not wanting me to stay around. 2. He has been very closely connected to the recent pbx/cc/cd busts which paranoia around the scene a coupla months a go, he was connected with Kittaro being know as one of the major grasses in that instance and yet although he was very well informed about the whole thing, he lives a stones throw away from Kittaro was unscathed by the whole thing, as such he would know who to contact as just phoning the police would get a response. 3. There had recently been a textfile written by a trader called --AleX -- called 'DAT-CRAP.TXT' Jr. EALLED a msg on his bbs accusing me of being -- AleX -- and that he was going to release a reply with 'The Truth' in it, he also deleted Librarians Account, accusing him of giving me a capture of his bbs when in fact it was a Data Division member Hahahahahah, I rang Jr. the following day asking where this 'Truth' reply was, i also said what are you gonna actually say that Data division releases are actually good Hahahahahahahaha, he seemed very happy, he replied 'That's between me and the Garden Shed!!!!'. This whole thing seems a bit too much of a coincidence that i should get bust a couple of days after a text release that Jr. accused me of! Make up your own minds, but in my humble opinion the only person with the contacts and a sufficient reason is Jr.!!! As things stand at the moment, I haven't one piece of computer equipment in my house, they've taken everything, including all papers, documents, postal receipt, details connected with the computer. I WILL BE GETTING 90% of what was taken BACK. But as to how long its going to take I have no idea, obviously a good solicitor will be able to get it back for me a lot quicker, I will be back very shortly so don't delete my accounts, just drop me to newuser level and change my password, when i have the ability to call i will let you know what password to use and to reactivate my account. I've currently been offered loans of computers of various people but am currently lacking a screen and a modem. Anyone with a spare screen or modem that would like to contribute, any loans would be appreciated. :) Grovel Grovel, Beg Beg :) The Village BBS will be back as soon as i get my equipment back, with original account details, inactive accounts will have been deleted and security will be tighter. This could be anything from a couple of weeks to 5 or 6 months, so hang in there cos the Village will be back. GREETS Thanx to everyone whos phoned and offered support. Anybody wishing to contact me and confirm this text can ring me on the bbs number, but for godsake no modem calls please. Greets goto(In no particular Order): Harv/LSD Captain Kirk Skull Butch Buddy Black Mafia Mack Sonny Ace >>Bo<>Bo<< and Grand Admiral. 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